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Joanna Milne 🏺's avatar

Interesting examples about Italians as more aggressive than they’re stereotypically depicted.

My grandmother’s recollection from Salonica was more like the stereotype though - she said the Italians wanted to preen their feathers and sing. The Germans were calling them pieces of shit and tended to be more ruthless. But we can gloss over the other examples too easily and it is important to point them out. It is too easy for people not just to see things in black and white terms, but to think they are the ‘good invader’ when that is really a non sequitur when we think about it.

The Greeks often like to describe Alexander in this way (he encourages intermarrying, was kinder to civilians than they were expecting). We probably lack lots of accounts on the other side which would say the polar opposite. It would be interested to hear about that if you study him. I didnt get to do paper on Alexander at uni, as the papers were quite strictly prescribed, but as you can imagine I wanted to know more, so I did a couple of postgraduate ones, two on the Byzantine period / Constantinople and one on Alexander (just a couple of months at Birkbeck). I think it could have easily been a whole year.

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The best historical 'good invader' I can think of is the Allied invasion and occupation of Iceland, which took place after Germany removed the lawful government in Denmark, had no casualties, provided massive economic development for the island, and resulted in what many Icelanders refer to as the blessað stríðið or 'Lovely War.'

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